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Bye Bye Ecademy

In the last 2 years I have been a non-paying member of Ecademy, a business and social networking platform with a pretty strong UK emphasis, since that is where it started. I'm not a frequent user of the platform, and the reasons for that I wrote about earlier this year:

I have strong reservations about Ecademy as a platform, think that in general it has a approach to networking that sees contacts as prospects first, and as human beings only second at the most. (Although there are a lot of very interesting and fine people active there, in groups and communities) (also see the comments to that post, and the following discussion in Ecademy itself, triggered by Scott Allen)

Nevertheless I came across many interesting people there, and joined a few networks there that seemed interesting. Primarily I joined the Dutch Connection, a lively group of creative and openminded people, consisting of Dutch, ex-pats living in the Netherlands, and those who have some sort of interest in the Netherlands. We've been meeting regularly in Amsterdam, and slowly plans and actions are emerging from this group. The group uses Ecademy as their on-line platform, although it does not see itself as a specific Ecademy club.

This weekend while logging in on Ecademy I was forced to choose between a new set-up of memberships. I chose the free basic membership. These questions come up every now and then, and I always choose the free membership. This primarily because the extra services I get for my money aren't that much added value for me to justify the monthly fee. But now things have changed: by choosing the free membership this weekend, my possibilities on Ecademy were reduced. What used to be the free membership now costs a small amount of money "the first year" (whatever that may mean for the years after). The changes, reducing my ability to interact to zero, are:

  • I can't blog entries there anymore, even though I have content up there already (or rather, had, as a consequence I removed my existing blog entries from Ecademy)
  • I can't post messages to the forums of the clubs I was part of. (So I even can't let the others know that I will not be able to contribute to the on-line space anymore)
  • The number of allowed contacts has been reduced from 10 to 0.

    This looks a lot like my experience with Haloscan, where I had to become a paying member to be able to export my blog-comments. The reason I wanted to export them was because I had stopped using their service....

    While I have no problem with saying goodbye to Ecademy as a platform, what I do have a problem with is the sudden and unannounced (afaik) cut-off from the few relationships I built there. I think it's the community that is the added value of the platform, not the other way around. And the platform owner is not the community owner nor it's natural leader. Also networking platforms aren't exactly scarce. Now the free membership has been stripped of every possibility to interact with others on the Ecademy website, the barrier to entry has become a lot higher for newcomers I think. I am curious to see the growthrate over the coming months of membership.

    So after 2 years I have just logged out of Ecademy for the last time. As soon as I have discussed how to stay in touch with the Dutch Connection with other members I will probably remove my profile from Ecademy as well. No reason to keep it there, if I cannot use it to interact with others, and the only one being able to use it is Thomas Power to boast about the number of people in Ecademy.

    I wish Ecademy the best of luck, as I am sure there are a lot of people in there for whom it offers real added value. It just always had limited value for me and apparantly I am of too little value to Ecademy now as well. I am confident that I will stay and get in touch with interesting people through other channels. Bye bye Ecademy.

    Permalink

    Leaving Ecademy
    Excerpt: Ton sums it up well. As soon as I get a response from Ecademy support telling me how to remove my profile it will be gone.
    Weblog: Synesthesia
    Tracked: December 6, 2004 02:27 PM
    Goodbye Ecademy
    Excerpt: Goodbye Ecademy.
    Weblog: tonygoodson
    Tracked: December 9, 2004 01:37 PM
    Re: A Goodbye message!
    Excerpt: Err and another bye bye here: http://www.zylstra.org/blog/archives/001514.htm...
    Weblog: tribe.net: www.zylstra.org
    Tracked: February 4, 2005 05:13 PM

    Well put Ton.

    If you find out how to remove your Ecademy profile can you blog the instructions please - can't find a way to leave the site! :-)

    Posted by: Julian at December 6, 2004 02:14 PM

    In the end I gave up looking and emailed support at ecademy d o t com They deleted everything for me...

    Posted by: Julian at December 6, 2004 02:56 PM

    Ton, I completely agree with you, except I'm not going to be so nice about it!!
    There are some big questions to ask of Ecademy.
    How confidential is the information which people post in private messages?
    How many members join versus how many "leave" or go dormant?
    Do Ecademy remove members or keep them there to make the numbers look better?
    What is the financial status of Ecademy?
    Why hasn't Ecademy grown exponentially as other networks have?
    How much intellectual capital has Ecademy lost by pissing off many people for a few extra bucks?

    Posted by: Tony Goodson at December 9, 2004 01:24 PM

    Bit late I know but are you sure that you have left Ecademy. Mr Power's lover of Google means that you are still likely to be listed as a member when searched. I have a fealing that you are not properly removed from the system the details are just not public.

    Also I am interested in the question of ownership, what has happened to the network you did build and also content that was published once you have left?

    The reason that Ecademy has not grown is that it is run as a MLM scam and as with most scams they have not been able to recruit paying members fast enough.

    Finally I also thing that active membership of the network has been falling ever since it became a network requiring payment rather than sponsership. If you were part of the network from the beginning you would have known that business model 101 an e-learning platform which saw the Guru help businesses such as BT, Logica & Parot systems understand internet business. It was only with the falling market that Thomas decided that business model 201 was networking. Not sure which Business Model we are on at present but Black Star looks like snake oil to me!

    Posted by: Digital Evangelis at February 4, 2005 11:31 PM
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