Covey on Management
While waiting at the counter of the local pizza take-away for my order to be ready, I found a magazine there with an interview with Stephen Covey (age 71, author of the 7 Habits, currently willing to come speak for you at $65.000 per appearance)
In this interview he declared management of people superfluous. One manages money, stocks, portfolios, and the like, not people. Give people purpose and a course, and then stop interfering with them.
The interview ended with this quote (emphasis mine):
In most organisations there is a lack of trust, and most employees are powerless. In this era of knowledge-workers we still use the industrial model of control, in which we treat people like objects. It is as if we are still practising bloodletting, although we know all about bacteria and how they work.
Hans von Gersdorff, "Feldbuch der Wundarznei", 1517 - Points for blood-letting
When I asked the pizza-guy for pen and paper to write this quote down, he smiled at me and said ain't that a good interview or what?.
So the pizza guy gets it, but the CEO's don't.
But as Covey said in the same interview it's all common sense really, just not common practice.
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Ton,
I'd love to have a reference :) Do you remember the journal name?
It was the Jan. 30th (#1, 2004) issue of Management Team, a Dutch magazine. A summary of the interview is on their website. (Ton)
Posted by: Lilia at February 2, 2004 01:06 AMMaybe as a powerless employee, a Pizza guy sees a lot that could be done but he is restricted from doing.
This is probably why some very successful businesses have started from employees of similar companies. ;-)
Posted by: Taran at February 2, 2004 04:56 AMA corollary of that: I have known for years that I can be led (ie, given a purpose) but I can't be managed. But it's possible to teach something called management while leadership is more elusive. So we have lots of managers and very little leadership.
Spot on Paul.
Managing the mechanics is the easy, but ineffective, bit. Leading people is altogether less tangible, but much more significant.
Too many managers waste time on the easy, but irrelevant bits of the job.
See Seb's post on this here.
See Seb's post on this here.
Stephen Covey has gone Frankfurt School (or perhaps he always was...).
Posted by: Stephen Covey 7 Habits Blog Owner at September 22, 2005 12:34 PMThe question is, why is it that "in most organisations there is a lack of trust, and most employees are powerless." This is simply because the system is set up this way, and the current workplace 'system' stems from our current definition(s) of leadership. I recommend you read this brilliant paper, "why your boss is programmed to be a dictator" (http://www.changethis.com/19.bossdictator) - it analyzes leadership from a systems framework...the results are startling!
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